Take down Spring?

by WE4PONXYZ » Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:17 pm

Hell yeah score and those Viridian C5 light laser combos aren’t cheap. I was looking at possibly getting one for my pf940sc/G26 as they are one of the few that fit completely flush with no modifications. But had to pass at $250 on average for one.

by RAMjetta » Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:46 am

Yep. Glad you got it working...and congrats on the free light.

JettaMan OUT!

by sailman » Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:54 am

Last year I got back a Smith and wasn't M and P compact that was stolen 10 years prior. This combination light and laser was on it when I got it back. Nothing better than free gun stuff. I guess it's kind of compensation for my weapon being done so long. Anyway I didn't fit the compact gun all that well so purity is on AG19.

by sailman » Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:07 am

That was it, I adjusted the connector and everything is good. Thanks for all the help!

by sailman » Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:56 am

I think I found the problem look at how far out the connector sits.

by Ancient Order » Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:43 pm

Wish I could put my hands on it and strip it down. It's hard to tell in the pictures, but it looks like your rails might be sitting a little high. The first two pictures they look high...the right one definitely, which happens on every build with P80 rails. The second two pictures they look ok. Also, in one of the pictures it looks like your trigger housing isn't sitting down all the way. Are your pin holes perfect? Does the trigger housing pin go through the frame and housing (without rails installed) easily? Make sure you installed the connector all the way. I've found several times that just a little extra nudge is needed to seat it all the way. In Johnny's videos, he shows two different connector angles. In one, he says the connector should just intersect with the bottom of the triangular piece of the housing. In the other, he says the connector should intersect with the top of the triangular piece. In my experience, somewhere in between is the sweet spot. Too far in, and it won't reset. Too far out and it won't drop. Also, make sure the connector isn't hanging up on that triangular piece of the housing. If it does, you'll need to shave off some of the inside of the triangle so the connector can move freely. It almost always happens with aftermarket housings/connectors. Not so much OEM.

by Hawkeye » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:58 pm

I thought it was one way or the other. I have had the same thing happen to some of my builds.

by sailman » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:34 pm

Hawkeye wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:23 pmI have to be truthful when it comes to the inter working parts, I know just enough to fix my build by trying everything I have read or seen on videos. From your pictures, it looks like your problem is in the connector. From what I see I think the connector is bent too far in letting the trigger bar to slide down not letting it reset. That is where I would start. Watch those Johnny Glock videos. He is my go-to for trigger info.

After watching the videos from Johnny Glock I think that it's been too far out. The reason that I think this is because the cruciform never comes off the shelf and does not drop the hammer. I think it is bound up between the the frame and and the connector. In one of his videos he talks about this issue.

by Hawkeye » Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:23 pm

I have to be truthful when it comes to the inter working parts, I know just enough to fix my build by trying everything I have read or seen on videos. From your pictures, it looks like your problem is in the connector. From what I see I think the connector is bent too far in letting the trigger bar to slide down not letting it reset. That is where I would start. Watch those Johnny Glock videos. He is my go-to for trigger info.

by RAMjetta » Fri Apr 22, 2022 2:14 pm

sailman wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:06 amRAMjetta wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:49 amNeed to see what it looks like outside of the frame from multiple angles to see the angle of the connector. Did you get a chance to look at the 2nd video I suggested earlier? I haven't looked at them yet I just had a little time before I went to work so I would decided to take some pictures. I'll get some pictures later on tonight or early in the morning. I'll have to look up some videos on how to get that Dang trigger pin out it's been a booger Edit I just watched the videos that you posted, After watching them I believe that it is definitely the connector that needs to be adjusted. I'll have to look up some videos on how to get that Dang trigger pin out it's been a booger Your slide lock/release is holding on to the trigger pin. When looking from the back of gun as if aiming you want to push the pin from. Left to right (opposite of putting the pin in). You may have to wiggle the slide lock/release to get it out but it shouldn't be too tough.

JettaMan OUT!

by sailman » Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:06 am

RAMjetta wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:49 amNeed to see what it looks like outside of the frame from multiple angles to see the angle of the connector. Did you get a chance to look at the 2nd video I suggested earlier?

I haven't looked at them yet I just had a little time before I went to work so I would decided to take some pictures. I'll get some pictures later on tonight or early in the morning. I'll have to look up some videos on how to get that Dang trigger pin out it's been a booger Edit I just watched the videos that you posted, After watching them I believe that it is definitely the connector that needs to be adjusted.

by RAMjetta » Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:49 am

Need to see what it looks like outside of the frame from multiple angles to see the angle of the connector. Did you get a chance to look at the 2nd video I suggested earlier?

JettaMan OUT!

by sailman » Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:31 am

I probably should make a new thread about this about this but since we're already talking about it here's a few pictures do you see anything that is out of place or that needs to be addressed. I'm not real sure how to explain what's going on with the trigger but when the trigger btrigger bar goes back and connects with the connector it never slides down the angled part. I can force it down but it feels rough keep in mind these parts have been polished. It almost feels like there is a bird on the underside of the angled part on the connector because when I try to push it over to get a reset a reset it kind of hangs up.

by RAMjetta » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:33 am

Hawkeye wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:53 pmJust about all my trigger problems have been the connector not being bent just right.

Yep that's usually the culprit. I haven't confirmed but Johnny glock gave a good point of reference to proper angle at minute 8:50 in the following video https://youtu.be/APg96MiLeks. I mean, I haven't checked mine but he's probably lying right with a name like "Johnny Glock" lmao The following is also a good connector mod video. https://youtu.be/b1r121Qt2ik

JettaMan OUT!

by Hawkeye » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:53 pm

Just about all my trigger problems have been the connector not being bent just right.

by Ancient Order » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:10 pm

sailman wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:27 pmYeah I got that figured out now I'm having an issue with my trigger engaging engaging and disengaging. All of the trigger parts have been polished so I'm not quite sure what's going on when I get more time I'll investigate that. Anyway thanks for the replies After a quick look through the back it doesn't look like the cruciform is disengaging from the striker so I guess I may need to take it apart and do a little more polishing. Something ain't right. Check trigger spring too. Make sure it's not kinked. Make sure connector is functioning correctly. Safety plunger too.

by RAMjetta » Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:24 pm

Check your connector angle.

JettaMan OUT!

by sailman » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:27 pm Yeah I got that figured out now I'm having an issue with my trigger engaging engaging and disengaging. All of the trigger parts have been polished so I'm not quite sure what's going on when I get more time I'll investigate that. Anyway thanks for the replies After a quick look through the back it doesn't look like the cruciform is disengaging from the striker so I guess I may need to take it apart and do a little more polishing.

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by WE4PONXYZ » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:23 pm

Sc frames also use the coil spring

by RAMjetta » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:20 pm

You are correct about the top spring sir. The coil spring is used for the PF45 and CL frames. Not sure about the SC frame.

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